now i'm at a point where sometimes the new page loads sans clock and sometimes the old page loads, must be stuck in a server and it just depends one luck.......it is frustrating but have given up and trying to fix or even comprehend what is going on......work was a a pain today, had a mass of computer problems which we finally tranced to the hub, which was basically half fried......then had a couple of surprise loads....all in all just a lovely day..........and i'm pretty well strung out..........