it's late, and i'm tired and a bit sore but it's been a good day, i slept in and then just kicked around this morning, this afternoon i went and helped my daughter and her husband lay so patio stones, there were 2x2's and about 50 lbs a piece and my back is feeling every ounce but it really turned out nice, they still have a little landscaping to do to blend it in to the surrounding area but it looks good, have taken it easy tonight and i off to bed