i've been raided again by nicky who when she is in her current condition has been know to spam her own zonk board......but she's a real peach and i'll humor her....besides a hit is a hit....have been messing around in the template and experimenting with the use of tables...have cleaned up a few areas on the site i was not happy with...but still not sure i really have the hang of it....have a new ring membership....it's down on the right there ...check it out....