the cup of coffee is getting cold, but it was the dregs of the pot so i'm stuck with it, have spend some time this evening firing up my old tri-gem computer, i have forgotten how slow a 200 w/32 megs of ram was, it's kind of weird, when i was growing up i was probably 10 or so before we had a tv, small screen, black and white, lots of "snow", rabbit ears, and tubes.....now a mere 45 years later,( ok so may 45 years really isn't mere) i've got two tv's and two computers going, and there are only two of us in the house, unless of course you count the cats, who's only interest in the computers is to sit on your lap when your trying to type, and if a net doesn't have tuna in it what good is it,